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Plato’s Republic

Notes on Great Minds Part 1

  • theme of imbalance between power. Disjunction between power and knowledge

  • Moral obligation to go down to the people and chat.

  • Lots of symbolism in first book

  • What you want or desire will be the characteristic of the soul and in turn the city

  • Stating of the themes in the first scene, Framing scene

    • Moving down to paraues. Philospher kings move down to the people.
    • Attempt to move back up.
    • Basic theme, the dialectic between the powerful and the knowledgeable
      • This disjunction between power and knowledge that makes the enquiry necessary
    • Glaucon is making all the decisions. Group of men spontaneously turn into a democracy.
  • Plato always chooses examples to represent something in the person he’s talking to.

  • Get rid of the old man, the past morality. Clear the slate. Young man who can still be changed.

  • Being just is the truly social animal. Obligations for education, for the dispersion of knowledge, the ultimate virtue.

  • Linguistic community (dialogue) sophist, like rhetoric, because there is no need to develop community, there end goal should be silence

  • When a sophist doesn’t like how the argument goes they become quiet or petulant.

  • The knower only wants the get the better of the ignorant (for the benefit of others). Cardiologist example.

  • Bait the young men into the (slightly weak argument with thrasymicus). Igniting their curiosity