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Plato’s Republic
Notes on Great Minds Part 1
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theme of imbalance between power. Disjunction between power and knowledge
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Moral obligation to go down to the people and chat.
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Lots of symbolism in first book
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What you want or desire will be the characteristic of the soul and in turn the city
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Stating of the themes in the first scene, Framing scene
- Moving down to paraues. Philospher kings move down to the people.
- Attempt to move back up.
- Basic theme, the dialectic between the powerful and the knowledgeable
- This disjunction between power and knowledge that makes the enquiry necessary
- Glaucon is making all the decisions. Group of men spontaneously turn into a democracy.
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Plato always chooses examples to represent something in the person he’s talking to.
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Get rid of the old man, the past morality. Clear the slate. Young man who can still be changed.
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Being just is the truly social animal. Obligations for education, for the dispersion of knowledge, the ultimate virtue.
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Linguistic community (dialogue) sophist, like rhetoric, because there is no need to develop community, there end goal should be silence
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When a sophist doesn’t like how the argument goes they become quiet or petulant.
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The knower only wants the get the better of the ignorant (for the benefit of others). Cardiologist example.
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Bait the young men into the (slightly weak argument with thrasymicus). Igniting their curiosity